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Nesturiler; Kürdistan'da, Mazdeizm ve Zorastrizm (Zerdüştçülük) geleneginden ayrılarak, Hristiyanlığı kabul edenlerdir. Anlatıldığı gibi geçmiş ve yeni iç içe geçmiştir. Yeniyi geçmişe ve yaşam tarzlarına göre ayarlamışlar, kabul etmişler. Nestorius; İ.S.385'de, Commagene'de doğmuştur. Nestorius, İ.S.428'de Konstantinopolis'de, patrik olur. Buna rağmen savunduğu düşünceler içinde şekillendiği toplumun eski dininin düşünceleridirler. Hristiyan kilisesi ortamın da, o dönem tartışma doğmalar etrafında gelişir. Örneğin ; Meryem Ana, Tanrı'nın (Theotokos) annesi midir? Yoksa insanın (Anthropotokos) annesi midir ? Nestorius, İsa'nın annesi (Christokos) olduğunu söylüyor. Bu görüşü kabul ediliyor. Daha sonra Nestorius, «Tanrı'nın kendisini doğuran bir kadın annesi olamaz. Hz. İsa insan gibi bir Tanrı'dır." diyor. Bu görüş kilise çevresin de tepkiyle karşılanıyor. Doğu hakkın da bilgisi olan Jean Cassien adlı Marseille'li bir keşişin hazırladığı rapor üzerine Ephesos'deki (Efes) 40 kişiden oluşan bir rahip heyeti Nestorius'u yargılamak ister. Heyet zorlukla toplanır. Nestorius duruşmaya katılmaz. Bunun üzerine papa Celestine, Nestorius'u mahküm eder. Nestorius, cezasının 5 yılını Antioch (Antakya) manastırın da bir zindan da geçirdikten sonra Mısır'a geçer. Orada İ.S. 450'de ölür. Nestorius'un ölümünden sonra Nesturicilik, Hristiyanlıktan kopmuş bir akım gibi gelişir. Babaeus-Babowai, Netorius'dan sonra din okulunu Nisibi'ne (Nusaybin) nakleder. 800'e yakın dinbilim öğretisini gören öğrencisi olur. Roma İmparatorluğu'na, Roma'daki papalığa bağlı kalacağına, Fars İmparatorluğu denetimin de yaşamayı tercih eder. Bundan dolayı Babowai hakkın da İ.S.484'de idam kararı verilir. ---------------, Bu üç bölge de 24.000 köy Hıristiyandır. 1.340.000 Hıristiyan Kürd vardır. Baban, Soran, Qereçolan ve Bîlîs'e yakın alanlarda da az miktar da Hıristiyan Kürd vardır. Hıristiyan Kürtlerin hepsi aşağı yukarı Nesturidirler. Bir kısmı Yakubidir. Diğerleri ise geleneksel olarak batıl Ewtuşî, çok tanrılı dindendirler. Katolik olan Ermeniler de varlar. Bunlara Mesîhî-Mehdiciler deniyor. Mesîhîlerin sayıları gittikçe artıyor. Avrupalı Hıristiyanlar oraya gelip, onları dini eğitime tabii tutuyorlar. Ben şahsen 10 köy de dini pratik yaptım. Uvassad, Tell-Kabin, Şax, Mar-Jako, Pêşxabur, Serê-Aurê, Bêdar, Şeraneş, Apciin ve Dezi köylerinin sakinlerini Katolik yaptım --Storia Della Regione Del Kurdistan-Kürdistan Din Tarihi, Napoli, Dalla Stamperia de Fratelli Fernandes, Strada Tribunali, No;287, 1818

Nestorius was only emboldened, teaching that Jesus was merely the temple of the Word, and if Mary is the Mother of God she has been made a goddess. His contemptuous remarks included, "a mother cannot bear a son older than herself." Both the Pope and Nestorius were desirous of a Council and so one was called in Ephesus in June of 431. However, Nestorius and his followers did not come, despite several summons, and after seven sessions to consider the matter the teaching of Nestorius, and some other heretics such as Pelagius, were condemned. Here is what the Council decreed: 111a For we do not say that the nature of the Word was changed and made flesh, nor yet that it was changed into the whole man (composed) of soul and body but rather (we say) that the Word, in an ineffable and inconceivable manner, having hypostatically united to Himself flesh animated by a rational soul, became Man and was called the Son of Man, not according to the will alone or by the assumption of a person alone, and that the different natures were brought together in a real union, but that out of both in one Christ and Son, not because the distinction of natures was destroyed by the union, but rather because the divine nature and the human nature formed one Lord and Christ and Son for us, through a marvelous and mystical concurrence in unity. . . . For it was no ordinary man who was first born of the Holy Virgin and upon whom the Word afterwards descended; but being united from the womb itself He is said to have undergone flesh birth, claiming as His own the birth of His own flesh. Thus [the holy Fathers] did not hesitate to speak of the holy Virgin as the Theotokos (Mother of God). [Denzinger paragraph 111a] 113 Canon. 1. If anyone does not confess that God is truly Emmanuel, and that on this account the Holy Virgin is the Mother of God (for according to the flesh she gave birth to the Word of God become flesh by birth), let him be anathema (condemned, i.e. excommunicated). 114 Can. 2. If anyone does not confess that the Word of God the Father was united to a body by hypostasis [union in a single Person] and that one is Christ with his own body, the same one evidently both God and man, let him be anathema. 115 Can. 3. If anyone in the one Christ divides the subsistences [divine and human natures] after the union, connecting them by a junction only according to worth, that is to say absolute sway or power, and not rather by a joining according to physical union [union in the one Christ], let him be anathema. 116 Can. 4. If anyone portions out to two persons, that is to say subsistences, the words in the Gospels and the apostolic writings, whether said about Christ by the saints, or by Him concerning Himself, and attributes some as it to a man specially understood beside the Word of God, others as befitting God alone, to the Word of God the Father, let him be anathema.

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Part I Mary, Mother of God and Queen of Heaven In a lasting vestige of anti-Catholic prejudice, a concerted effort to discredit the Church is being made today by some non-Catholic Christians who continue to propagate the falsehood that Catholics worship Mary OR that the devotion to the Blessed Mother is a continuation of devotion to the various mother goddesses of the ancient pagan pantheons. These charges can legitimately be called prejudices because they proceed from a prejudgment (made in advance based on preconceived ideas about what Catholics believe) and efforts to enlighten and convince with facts usually fall on deaf ears. However, it is necessary for Catholics to be forewarned about these on-going polemically, "prayer warfare" and "prophetic acts" (such as the smashing of a statue on Brazilian TV), so as not to be scandalized about their Catholic faith by such attacks. Mother of God One such claim is that calling Mary the Mother of God is a manifestation of the apostasy of Catholicism, which has returned to pagan mother goddess worship. This title, bestowed by the Council of Ephesus in 431, is seen as proof of Catholic apostasy from the Gospel. The historical facts underlying the Council do not dissuade those captured by this prejudice about the Church and its love of Mary, however, they clearly show the Church's intention to protect the doctrine of Christ's divinity and sacred humanity, the Incarnation, as well as give the proper due to she who fully cooperated in it by her Fiat (let it be done). The fourth and fifth centuries, the first ones of Christian emancipation from persecution, were centuries of consolidating the truth about God and Christ. The Councils of Nicea (325) and Constantinople (361) defined the basic teachings of Christianity in the Creed which goes by their name (and which is obligatory at Sunday Mass), against those who in one manner or another denied the unity of God, and the Divinity of the Son ("one in substance with the Father") and of the Holy Spirit ("who proceeds from the Father and the Son"). It also asserted the true humanity of Christ "born of the Virgin Mary," thus protecting the Incarnation of the Word, the Word-made-flesh, from the assault of heretics like Arius. Jesus Christ was indeed the Eternal Son, a Divine Person, who united in Himself both a Divine and human nature. However, some of those who remained in the Church after Nicea-Constantinople sought to mitigate the full force of these teachings by various equivocations. In 428 Archbishop Nestorius, the newly elected Patriarch of Constantinople, began to teach that Mary was indeed the Mother of Christ but was not the Mother of God, a title freely used in the Church. Although attempting to remain faithful to the Creed, that is professing belief in Christ's true Divinity and true humanity, Nestorius' writings, however, suggested that in Christ there was more of a moral unity of two persons, the Word and Jesus. In addition to the rebellion of the clergy and people, Nestorius had to contend with the attacks of St. Cyril of Alexandria, who finally submitted both Nestorius' writings and his own defenses to Pope St. Celestine, who condemned Nestorius as a heretic.

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Confession to Roman Catholic Priest: personal and Biblical analysis by Brian Donovan, Peter Ruckman's assistant pastor at Bible Baptist Church, Pensacola. FOR FURTHER READING: "The Priest, the Woman, and the Confessional" By CHARLES CHINIQUY (A former priest warns of the dangers of the confessional) Los Angeles Times, December 12, 1984, quotes John Paul II as saying: "Don't go to God for forgiveness of sins: come to me." !!! http://www.biblebelievers.com/chiniquy/priest_woman_contents.html BIBLE BAPTIST INFO http://www.kjv1611.org/contents.htm (link given for information purposes only - not authorized) Auricular confession began as a dogma in 1215 under Pope Innocent III (Council of Lateran) - and yet not a single trace of auricular confession as a dogma can be found prior to that year! Famous Catholic Saints who never went to confession and never heard confession: St Mary the Egyptian, St Cyprian, Gregory of Nyssa, St Basil, St Ambrose, St Martin of Tours, St Jerome, St Chrysostom, St Augustine Jerome's advice to clergy: "Never sit in secret, alone, in a retired place, with a female who is alone with you. If she has any particular thing to tell you, let her take the female attendant of the house, a young girl, or widow, or a married woman. She cannot be so ignorant of the rules of human life as to expect to have you as the only one to whom she can trust those things" Augustine: "What have I to do with men that they should hear my confessions, as if they were able to heal my infirmities? The human race is very curious to know another person's life, but very lazy to correct it." Nestorius: "We do not request you to go to confess your sins to any of your fellow men, but only to God" Bellarmin: "Certain women were in the habit of going to the heretic marcion to confess their sins to him. But, as he was smitten with their beauty, and they loved him also, they abandoned themselves to sin with him." Basil: "I close my eyes, and confess my sins in the secret of my heart. Before thee, O God, I pour out my sighs, and thou alone art the witness." John Chrysostom: "You need no witness of your confession. Secretly acknowledge your sins, and let God alone hear you." Dr Erasmus: "But our divines, not advisedly considering what the old doctors do say, are deceived, that which they say of general and open confession, they wrest, by and by, to this secret and privy kind of confession." Father Chiniquy: "When Holy Fathers of the first centuries speak of "confession" they invariably understand "public confessions" and not auricular confession. There is much difference between such public confessions and auricular confessions, as there is between heaven and hell, between God and his great enemy, Satan." ++++ Église Catholique Katholische Kirche Καθολική εκκλησία Chiesa Cattolica Igreja Вселенскаяа церковь Iglesia Católica Katholieke Kerk Sacrament of Penance good confession

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Aramaic prayer Tur Abdin - Turabdin - Mardin - Midyat - Qamishli - Mossul - Diyarbekir - Mesopotamia - Aram-Nahrain - Syria - Damascus - Turkey - iraq - Lebanon - Israel - palestine - Maronite - Maroniten - Chaldean - Nestorian - Mandean - Antioch - Antiochia

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Wie kam es zur Legende eines nie existierenden Priesterkönigs, die des Johannes? Auf die schon Jahre zuvor einfallenden Mongolen - 1241 Schlacht bei Lignitz bei der die vereinigten polnischen und deutschen Truppen eine Niederlage erlitten - wusste sich der Papst nicht zu helfen. Also schickte er einen gesandten los. Johannes de Plano Carpini sollte Aufzeichungen erstellen und Kontakte vermitteln. Viele Infos: Nestorianische Christen Nestorianismus Nestorianer Karakorum Eine 1900 Jahre alte Kapelle im Iran Wann hielt der Papst das erste mal Papier in der Hand? Lyon Tartaren -- music in this clip Isao Tomita STORM FROM THE EAST (Soundtrack/OST) Track 10: Requiem of Plains

--"One of the remarkable fact in the history of the Uyghurs which left a deep mark on their culture is that throughout their existence, they have professed most of the world's major religions. They've practiced Shamanism, Buddhism, Manicheism and Nestorian Christianity. In the 9th century, Islam has been introduced to the Uyghurs." --"Uyghur culture which dominated Central Asia for more than one thousand years, went into a steep decline after...." --"Chinese are representing Uyghurs as very exotic, very lively and happy about their political situation.......unfortuantely many reasearchers who didn't have much experiences with Uyghurs, picking up those stereotypes and continue talking about Uyghurs as very happy and life loving people. It's true that they're life loving but it's not that they are happy that much about present situation. In fact many people don't understand the irony of many songs that are talking about love in fact talking about love to the motherland. Those songs are usually in the essence are very sad although they are using major mode which in the western world associated with happy feelings,you'll have to understand the whole context of the music and culture."

Wie kam es zur Legende eines nie existierenden Priesterkönigs, die des Johannes? Auf die schon Jahre zuvor einfallenden Mongolen - 1241 Schlacht bei Lignitz bei der die vereinigten polnischen und deutschen Truppen eine Niederlage erlitten - wusste sich der Papst nicht zu helfen. Also schickte er einen Gesandten los. Johannes de Plano Carpini sollte Aufzeichungen erstellen und Kontakte vermitteln. Davon und wieso Christen und Moslems an der Seite der Mongolen kämpften sowie zu der Technik im Umgang mit Pferden und Waffen... Viele Infos: Nestorianische Christen Nestorianismus Nestorianer Karakorum Eine 1900 Jahre alte Kapelle im Iran Wann hielt der Papst das erste mal Papier in der Hand? Und von wem erhielt er es? Lyon Tartaren Horses -- nex part http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq1tKRwGCZk

PART # 1: EXCELLENT SPEECH MADE BY REV. FATHER ANTWAN LACHIN TO THE MAR YOSIP KHNANISHO CHURCH FAITHFUL IN SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA.

An aerial survey of Krasnorechenskoe archeological site in the Chu river valley in Kyrgyzstan. The ruins are associated with the medieval town of Navekat, which was established as a Sogdian merchants' stopover on the Great Silk Road 4-9 ca AD. The place is known for its multi-confessional population. Temples of Zoroastrian Fire-worshipers, Buddhists and Nestorian Christians met in this spot of space-time.

Aramaic prayer Tur Abdin - Turabdin - Mardin - Midyat - Qamishli - Mossul - Diyarbekir - Mesopotamia - Aram-Nahrain - Syria - Damascus - Turkey - iraq - Lebanon - Israel - palestine - Maronite - Maroniten - Chaldean - Nestorian - Mandean - Antioch - Antiochia

Aramaic prayer Tur Abdin - Turabdin - Mardin - Midyat - Qamishli - Mossul - Diyarbekir - Mesopotamia - Aram-Nahrain - Syria - Damascus - Turkey - iraq - Lebanon - Israel - palestine - Maronite - Maroniten - Chaldean - Nestorian - Mandean - Antioch - Antiochia

Syriac Orthodox Church Tur Abdin - Turabdin - Mardin - Midyat - Qamishli - Mossul - Diyarbekir - Mesopotamia - Aram-Nahrain - Syria - Damascus - Turkey - iraq - Lebanon - Israel - palestine - Maronite - Maroniten - Chaldean - Nestorian - Mandean - Antioch - Antiochia

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Aramaic people demonstrate in Brussels (20.04.08). Persecution of Christians in the Middle East Tur Abdin - Turabdin - Mardin - Midyat - Qamishli - Mossul - Diyarbekir - Mesopotamia - Aram-Nahrain - Syria - Damascus - Turkey - iraq - Lebanon - Israel - palestine - Maronite - Maroniten - Chaldean - Nestorian - Mandean - Antioch - Antiochia Belgien - Belgique - Belgium - Brüssel - Bruxelles -Christenverfolgung - European Union - Persécution des chrétiens - Arameens - Syriaque

Syriac Orthodox Church Tur Abdin - Turabdin - Mardin - Midyat - Qamishli - Mossul - Diyarbekir - Mesopotamia - Aram-Nahrain - Syria - Damascus - Turkey - iraq - Lebanon - Israel - palestine - Maronite - Maroniten - Chaldean - Nestorian - Mandean - Antioch - Antiochia

Aramaic Hymn (Syriac Orthodox) Tur Abdin - Turabdin - Mardin - Midyat - Qamishli - Mossul - Diyarbekir - Mesopotamia - Aram-Nahrain - Syria - Damascus - Turkey - iraq - Lebanon - Israel - palestine - Maronite - Maroniten - Chaldean - Nestorian - Mandean - Antioch - Antiochia

Are these 1st-2nd Century Christian inscriptions and crosses on these remote Himalayan boulders, written in Aramaic? Eleven Shadows