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Dutschke bei Gaus (4/5)
Das Gespräch sendete das „Deutsche Fernsehen", heute „Das Erste", (Produktion des Südwestfunks SWF) am Sonntag, 3.12. 1967 zwischen 20.15 und 22.00h. Mehr unter dem Stichwort „zur Person" bei Radio-Berlin-Brandenburg (rbb-online). Gespräche wurden verschriftet und können per Roboter in andere Sprachen gesetzt werden. Auszüge aus einer Fernsehkritik - DIE ZEIT 21/1993 S. 50 „Zu Protokoll. Günter Gaus interviewt Rudi Dutschke" Rückblicke, Bilanzen, Epitaphe -- sie alle müssen ihn verfehlen, den Geist von 68, auch 25 Jahre danach. Vor allem die ehemals Beteiligten, die heute doppelt so alt sind, wissen meist nicht mehr, wovon sie reden. Glücklicherweise gibt es Kameras und Fernsehsender. Selbst ein bescheidenes Dreiviertelstündchen-Interview bewahrt und verrät heute mehr von jener Zeit als ganze Bände voller Reminiszenzen. Günter Gaus mit Rudi Dutschke, im Dezember 1967 in einem Studio des Südwestfunks -- kein Schmuck, kein Trick, keine Musik, die Sendung lebt vom Wort und lebt bis heute kraftvoller als sämtliche Talk-Shows eines ganzen Jahres. Das liegt nicht nur daran, dass hier zwei Leute miteinander sprechen, die was zu sagen haben, sondern dass das Wort, noch nicht entwertet durch televisionäre Redeflut, den Interviewpartnern selbst etwas gilt. Hier werden keine Worte verraten, weil ja Fernsehsekunden teuer sind und deshalb gekrallt werden müssen, sondern Worte werden gesucht und sorgsam geformt. Hier wird erörtert -- mit Feuer und Konzentration. So etwas gibt es im Fernsehen nicht mehr. Gaus, selbst ja damals noch nicht alt, aber „etabliert" interviewt in Dutschke die junge Generation, die „so" nicht mehr weitermachen will. Aber Gaus kennt die Welt nur „so", und er ist nicht fähig, sie sich anders zu denken. Das Interview lebt von der Spannung, dass beide Mühe haben, einander zu verstehen, es aber unbedingt wollen. „Wer führt Ihre Bewegung?" fragt Gaus, und Dutschke sagt: „Die Menschen führen sich selbst." -- „Wie verhindern Sie Minderheiten-Terror?" -- „Wir werden Mehrheit, oder wir scheitern." -- „Sie werden Gefängnisse brauchen . . ., KZs ..." -- „Es hängt vom Willen der Menschen ab, ob sie zur Freiheit finden. Wir können eine Welt gestalten, wie sie die Welt noch nie gesehen hat." Während Gaus durch jede Rebellion die noch unreife Demokratie der Bundesrepublik gefährdet sieht, erscheint Dutschke diese Demokratie mürbe und faul. „Sind Sie antiparlamentarisch?" -- „Ja, weil die wirklichen Bedürfnisse der Menschen im Parlament nicht vorkommen." Barbara Sichtermann Excerpts from a TV Review -- DIE ZEIT 21/1993 p. 50 "For the Minutes: Günter Gaus interviews Rudi Dutschke " Reviews, summaries, epitaphs - they must all miss him, the Spirit of 68, even 25 years later. Above all, the former parties, now twice as old, usually no longer know what they are talking about. Fortunately, there are cameras and television. Even a modest 45-minutes 1967-made-interview today preserves and betrays more of the time than entire volumes of reminiscences. Günter Gaus with Rudi Dutschke, recorded in December 1967 in a studio of the German Südwestfunk Baden-Baden - no decorations, no trick, no music, the "show"(?) lives by the word and lives up to this day. Powerful than all talk shows now in a year. This is not just because two people talk to each other, who have a say in serious matters, but that the word, not devalued by nowadays TV shallow speech, has a worth per se for the interview partners. No words are betrayed to push the ratings. Words are sought and carefully shaped. We follow two persons in their discussion - with passion and concentration. Germany's public non-commercial TV systems (ARD/ZDF) have nothing to offer comparable to that. Günter Gaus, even then in 1967 still not so old, but "established" interviewed Dutschke as a member of the younger generation, not willing to follow the "so" home grown way of life . But Gaus takes the role of the "so"-world, not capable to think differently. The interview thrives on the tension that two "mind-wrestlers" have trouble getting to understand each other, but necessarily want to. "Who leads your movement?" Gaus asks, and Dutschke: "The people themselves" - "How to avoid minorities terror?" -- "We are in a majority, or we fail." - "They will need prisons... KZ ..." -- "It depends on the will of the people, whether they are for freedom. We can create a world, as the world has never seen before." Gaus, concerned about any rebellion against the still unfirm democracy in West Germany only 22 years after World War II vs. Dutschke's view of a democracy, "crumbly and lazy". "Are you an Anti-Parliamentarist? " -- "Yes, because the real needs of the people in Parliament do not occur." By Barbara Sichtermann (Translation: kleineglocke) |
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Freedom or Fascism 1 - clip 13 of 16
Authoritarian and totalitarian state Although the broadest descriptions of fascism may include every authoritarian state that has ever existed, most theorists see important distinctions to be made. Fascism in Italy arose in the 1920s as a mixture of syndicalist notions with an anti-materialist theory of the state; the latter had already been linked to an extreme nationalism. Fascists accused parliamentary democracy of producing division and decline, and wished to renew the nation from decadence. They viewed the state as an organic entity in a positive light rather than as an institution designed to protect individual rights, or as one that should be held in check. Fascism universally dismissed the Marxist concept of "class struggle", replacing it instead with the concept of "class collaboration". Fascists embraced nationalism and mysticism, advancing ideals of strength and power as means of legitimacy. These ideas are in direct opposition to the liberal ideals of humanism and rationalism characteristic of the Age of Enlightenment. Fascism is also typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social, cultural, and economic, by way of a strong, single-party government for enacting laws and a strong, sometimes brutal militia or police force for enforcing them. Fascism exalts the nation, state, or group of people as superior to the individuals composing it. Fascism uses explicit populist rhetoric; calls for a heroic mass effort to restore past greatness; and demands loyalty to a single leader, leading to a cult of personality and unquestioned obedience to orders (Führerprinzip). Fascism is also considered to be a form of collectivism. |
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Freedom or Fascism 2 - clip 13 of 16
Authoritarian and totalitarian state Although the broadest descriptions of fascism may include every authoritarian state that has ever existed, most theorists see important distinctions to be made. Fascism in Italy arose in the 1920s as a mixture of syndicalist notions with an anti-materialist theory of the state; the latter had already been linked to an extreme nationalism. Fascists accused parliamentary democracy of producing division and decline, and wished to renew the nation from decadence. They viewed the state as an organic entity in a positive light rather than as an institution designed to protect individual rights, or as one that should be held in check. Fascism universally dismissed the Marxist concept of "class struggle", replacing it instead with the concept of "class collaboration". Fascists embraced nationalism and mysticism, advancing ideals of strength and power as means of legitimacy. These ideas are in direct opposition to the liberal ideals of humanism and rationalism characteristic of the Age of Enlightenment. Fascism is also typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social, cultural, and economic, by way of a strong, single-party government for enacting laws and a strong, sometimes brutal militia or police force for enforcing them. Fascism exalts the nation, state, or group of people as superior to the individuals composing it. Fascism uses explicit populist rhetoric; calls for a heroic mass effort to restore past greatness; and demands loyalty to a single leader, leading to a cult of personality and unquestioned obedience to orders (Führerprinzip). Fascism is also considered to be a form of collectivism. |
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