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'"Public Ivy"' is a term first used by American author Richard Moll to mean a public institution that "provide[s] an Ivy League collegiate experience at a public school price." ''The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education'' characterized them as "successfully competing with the Ivy League schools in academic rigor... attracting superstar faculty and in competing for the best and brightest students of all races."[1]
The term "Public Ivy" was coined by Richard Moll in his book ''Public Ivys: A Guide to America's best public undergraduate colleges and universities'' (1985). Moll was the director of admissions at the University of California, Santa Cruz, and traveled the nation examining higher education and in particular, identified eight public institutions (the same as the number of Ivy League members) that he thought had the look and feel of an Ivy League university. This is a particularly important distinction, because a public ivy is generally considered to be a designation characteristic of academic excellence. While that was a part of selection, the focus was largely on schools that were visually like an ivy league, aged as an ivy league, had traditions like an ivy league, and so forth. The more recent Greene's list had one focus alone: Public schools with academic quality comparable or even beyond an ivy league institution.
Greene's Guide has become a more widely accepted list because of its academic emphasis. It was believed that Moll's methodology was flawed considering that Ivy League schools themselves had nothing to do with age (the Ivy League is actually an athletic conference).
Being a public ivy has gained particular importance in recent years as tuition at private colleges has skyrocketed. More and more publications rank school based on value, or how good are the academics relative to what it will cost you. Kiplinger's Personal Finance produces arguably the most widely accepted of such ranking. For 2007 they ranked UNC, Chapel Hill the number one value in the country for an in-state student and Binghamton University the number one value for an out-of-state student. The rankings were based 2/3 on academics and 1/3 on financial data.
Moll's original Public Ivies (1985):
★ College of William and Mary
★ Miami University
★ University of California system[2]
★ University of Michigan
★ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
★ University of Texas at Austin
★ University of Vermont
★ University of Virginia
A later book titled ''The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities'' (2001) by Howard and Matthew Greene of Greenes' Guides expanded upon the list in the first book to include 30 colleges and universities. That book listed the following as Public Ivies:[3]
★ Binghamton University
★ College of William and Mary
★ Indiana University Bloomington
★ Miami University
★ Michigan State University
★ Ohio State University (Columbus)
★ Pennsylvania State University (University Park)
★ Rutgers University
★ University of Arizona
★ University of California, Berkeley
★ University of California, Davis
★ University of California, Irvine
★ University of California, Los Angeles
★ University of California, San Diego
★ University of California, Santa Barbara
★ University of Colorado at Boulder
★ University of Connecticut
★ University of Delaware
★ University of Florida
★ University of Georgia
★ University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
★ University of Iowa
★ University of Maryland College Park
★ University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
★ University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
★ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
★ University of Texas at Austin
★ University of Virginia
★ University of Washington
★ University of Wisconsin-Madison
Other schools are sometimes referred to as Public Ivies as well, partly as a result of the acceptance of the term into popular culture and in other cases as a result of marketing efforts by the colleges and universities themselves. Though not included on the above lists, Murray State University includes the phrase "Kentucky's Public Ivy University" on its official logo, and the State University of New York at Geneseo, part of the State University of New York system, also describes itself as a "Public Ivy." [4]
[5]
U.S. colleges and universities have been observing sky-rocketing costs of attendance, making the role of quality public education increasingly important. The Public Ivies represent those schools a student can attend for the same quality education, at a much lower cost.
Moll and the Greenes did not address the issue of prestige associated with the various schools reviewed. No direct comparison was made between a Public Ivy and any other school.
Many of the institutions categorized as "Public Ivies" have a large number of faculty, or alumni, who have been awarded prizes for their achievements in their respective field including the Nobel Prize (See Nobel Prize laureates by university affiliation), Fields Medal, and the Pulitzer Prize.
Several schools considered by Richard Moll as well as Howard and Matthew Greene as "Public Ivies" are consistently ranked among the top schools in the multitude of surveys on American colleges and universities undertaken by ''U.S. News & World Report''. For instance,
''U.S. News and World Report'' ranks the mechanical engineering program at University of California-Berkeley in the top three, and the top school for medical and nursing is University of Washington.[6] However, in general rankings, U.S. News and World Report consistently ranks Ivy League institutions at the top of its lists. For example, the highest ranked Public Ivy, the University of California, Berkeley ranked 21st in the United States, while the lowest ranked Ivy League institution, Brown University, ranked 14th[7]; but this may be attributable to the inclusion of endowment size in the ranking process which puts public universities (who are less reliant on private funding) at a disadvantage.
One sharp distinction between the Ivy League and most "Public Ivies" is their participation in intercollegiate athletics. One of the Ivy League's distinguishing characteristics is its prohibition on the awarding of athletic scholarships (athletes may only receive the same need-based financial aid to which they would be entitled even if they did not play a sport). In contrast, many of the "Public Ivies" participate in major athletic conferences such as the Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, ACC, SEC, America East Conference, or Pac-10; award athletic scholarships; and rely on profits, if any, from large-scale football and men's basketball programs to support the athletic department as a whole (Miami University and University of Vermont are exceptions, as their athletic programs remain quite modest but award scholarships nonetheless).
★ Colonial colleges
★ Hidden Ivy
★ Ivy League
★ Jesuit Ivy
★ Little Ivies
★ Southern Ivies
1. "Comparing Black Enrollments at the Public Ivies" from the ''Journal of Blacks in Higher Education'' (Autumn 2005) accessed on 3 September 2006.
2. In Moll's book, he refers to the entire UC system
3. Greenes' Guides: The Public Ivies (accessed on May 16, 2007); see also [1].
4. SUNY Geneseo statement using "Public Ivy" to describe itself. accessed 22 October 2006.
5. Logo Guidelines at Murray State University accessed 5 September 2006, stating: "Effective immediately, the following new 'Kentucky's Public Ivy University' logos replace the 'Excellence begins here' logo."
6.
''U.S. News and World Report'' (2006 Pharmacy program rankings), accessed 21 October 2006.
7. ''U.S. News and World Report'' (2006 general rankings), accessed 31 August 2007.
★ Greene, Howard and Greene, Matthew. ''The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities'' (New York: HarperCollins, 2001). ISBN 0-06-093459-X
★ Greene, Howard and Greene, Matthew. ''Hidden Ivies: Thirty Colleges of Excellence'' (New York: HarperCollins, 2000). ISBN 0-06-095362-4
★ Moll, Richard. ''The Public Ivies: A Guide to America's best public undergraduate colleges and universities'' (New York: Penguin (Viking), 1985). ISBN 0-14-009384-2 or ISBN 0-670-58205-0
★ Princeton Review. ''The Best 361 Colleges, 2007 Edition'' (Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton Review, 2006). ISBN 0-375-76558-1
'"Public Ivy"' is a term first used by American author Richard Moll to mean a public institution that "provide[s] an Ivy League collegiate experience at a public school price." ''The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education'' characterized them as "successfully competing with the Ivy League schools in academic rigor... attracting superstar faculty and in competing for the best and brightest students of all races."[1]
| Contents |
| Origins of the term |
| The Public Ivies |
| Value |
| Institutional comparisons |
| Academic comparisons and rankings |
| Athletic comparisons |
| See also |
| References and other resources |
| Citations |
| Books |
Origins of the term
The term "Public Ivy" was coined by Richard Moll in his book ''Public Ivys: A Guide to America's best public undergraduate colleges and universities'' (1985). Moll was the director of admissions at the University of California, Santa Cruz, and traveled the nation examining higher education and in particular, identified eight public institutions (the same as the number of Ivy League members) that he thought had the look and feel of an Ivy League university. This is a particularly important distinction, because a public ivy is generally considered to be a designation characteristic of academic excellence. While that was a part of selection, the focus was largely on schools that were visually like an ivy league, aged as an ivy league, had traditions like an ivy league, and so forth. The more recent Greene's list had one focus alone: Public schools with academic quality comparable or even beyond an ivy league institution.
Greene's Guide has become a more widely accepted list because of its academic emphasis. It was believed that Moll's methodology was flawed considering that Ivy League schools themselves had nothing to do with age (the Ivy League is actually an athletic conference).
Being a public ivy has gained particular importance in recent years as tuition at private colleges has skyrocketed. More and more publications rank school based on value, or how good are the academics relative to what it will cost you. Kiplinger's Personal Finance produces arguably the most widely accepted of such ranking. For 2007 they ranked UNC, Chapel Hill the number one value in the country for an in-state student and Binghamton University the number one value for an out-of-state student. The rankings were based 2/3 on academics and 1/3 on financial data.
The Public Ivies
Moll's original Public Ivies (1985):
★ College of William and Mary
★ Miami University
★ University of California system[2]
★ University of Michigan
★ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
★ University of Texas at Austin
★ University of Vermont
★ University of Virginia
A later book titled ''The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities'' (2001) by Howard and Matthew Greene of Greenes' Guides expanded upon the list in the first book to include 30 colleges and universities. That book listed the following as Public Ivies:[3]
★ Binghamton University
★ College of William and Mary
★ Indiana University Bloomington
★ Miami University
★ Michigan State University
★ Ohio State University (Columbus)
★ Pennsylvania State University (University Park)
★ Rutgers University
★ University of Arizona
★ University of California, Berkeley
★ University of California, Davis
★ University of California, Irvine
★ University of California, Los Angeles
★ University of California, San Diego
★ University of California, Santa Barbara
★ University of Colorado at Boulder
★ University of Connecticut
★ University of Delaware
★ University of Florida
★ University of Georgia
★ University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
★ University of Iowa
★ University of Maryland College Park
★ University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
★ University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
★ University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
★ University of Texas at Austin
★ University of Virginia
★ University of Washington
★ University of Wisconsin-Madison
Other schools are sometimes referred to as Public Ivies as well, partly as a result of the acceptance of the term into popular culture and in other cases as a result of marketing efforts by the colleges and universities themselves. Though not included on the above lists, Murray State University includes the phrase "Kentucky's Public Ivy University" on its official logo, and the State University of New York at Geneseo, part of the State University of New York system, also describes itself as a "Public Ivy." [4]
[5]
Value
U.S. colleges and universities have been observing sky-rocketing costs of attendance, making the role of quality public education increasingly important. The Public Ivies represent those schools a student can attend for the same quality education, at a much lower cost.
Institutional comparisons
Academic comparisons and rankings
Moll and the Greenes did not address the issue of prestige associated with the various schools reviewed. No direct comparison was made between a Public Ivy and any other school.
Many of the institutions categorized as "Public Ivies" have a large number of faculty, or alumni, who have been awarded prizes for their achievements in their respective field including the Nobel Prize (See Nobel Prize laureates by university affiliation), Fields Medal, and the Pulitzer Prize.
Several schools considered by Richard Moll as well as Howard and Matthew Greene as "Public Ivies" are consistently ranked among the top schools in the multitude of surveys on American colleges and universities undertaken by ''U.S. News & World Report''. For instance,
''U.S. News and World Report'' ranks the mechanical engineering program at University of California-Berkeley in the top three, and the top school for medical and nursing is University of Washington.[6] However, in general rankings, U.S. News and World Report consistently ranks Ivy League institutions at the top of its lists. For example, the highest ranked Public Ivy, the University of California, Berkeley ranked 21st in the United States, while the lowest ranked Ivy League institution, Brown University, ranked 14th[7]; but this may be attributable to the inclusion of endowment size in the ranking process which puts public universities (who are less reliant on private funding) at a disadvantage.
Athletic comparisons
One sharp distinction between the Ivy League and most "Public Ivies" is their participation in intercollegiate athletics. One of the Ivy League's distinguishing characteristics is its prohibition on the awarding of athletic scholarships (athletes may only receive the same need-based financial aid to which they would be entitled even if they did not play a sport). In contrast, many of the "Public Ivies" participate in major athletic conferences such as the Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, ACC, SEC, America East Conference, or Pac-10; award athletic scholarships; and rely on profits, if any, from large-scale football and men's basketball programs to support the athletic department as a whole (Miami University and University of Vermont are exceptions, as their athletic programs remain quite modest but award scholarships nonetheless).
See also
★ Colonial colleges
★ Hidden Ivy
★ Ivy League
★ Jesuit Ivy
★ Little Ivies
★ Southern Ivies
References and other resources
Citations
1. "Comparing Black Enrollments at the Public Ivies" from the ''Journal of Blacks in Higher Education'' (Autumn 2005) accessed on 3 September 2006.
2. In Moll's book, he refers to the entire UC system
3. Greenes' Guides: The Public Ivies (accessed on May 16, 2007); see also [1].
4. SUNY Geneseo statement using "Public Ivy" to describe itself. accessed 22 October 2006.
5. Logo Guidelines at Murray State University accessed 5 September 2006, stating: "Effective immediately, the following new 'Kentucky's Public Ivy University' logos replace the 'Excellence begins here' logo."
6.
''U.S. News and World Report'' (2006 Pharmacy program rankings), accessed 21 October 2006.
7. ''U.S. News and World Report'' (2006 general rankings), accessed 31 August 2007.
Books
★ Greene, Howard and Greene, Matthew. ''The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities'' (New York: HarperCollins, 2001). ISBN 0-06-093459-X
★ Greene, Howard and Greene, Matthew. ''Hidden Ivies: Thirty Colleges of Excellence'' (New York: HarperCollins, 2000). ISBN 0-06-095362-4
★ Moll, Richard. ''The Public Ivies: A Guide to America's best public undergraduate colleges and universities'' (New York: Penguin (Viking), 1985). ISBN 0-14-009384-2 or ISBN 0-670-58205-0
★ Princeton Review. ''The Best 361 Colleges, 2007 Edition'' (Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton Review, 2006). ISBN 0-375-76558-1
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