The 'Occitano-Romance' branch of
Romance languages encompasses the dialects pertaining to the
Occitan and the
Catalan languages situated in
France (
Occitania,
Northern Catalonia),
Spain (
Catalonia,
Valencian Community,
Balearic Islands,
La Franja,
Carxe),
Andorra,
Monaco, parts of
Italy (
Occitan Valleys,
Alghero,
Guardia Piemontese), and historically in the
County of Tripoli and the possessions of the
Crown of Aragon. The existence of this group of languages is discussed both in linguistic and political basis.
According to certain linguists
Occitan should be included in
Gallo-Romance, and according to others both
Occitan and the
Catalan should be considered
Gallo-Romance. However, other linguists consider
Catalan as part of the
Ibero-Romance languages.
The issue at debate is as political as it is linguistic, since the division on
Gallo-Romance and
Ibero-Romance languages stems from the current nation-states of
France and
Spain, and thus is based more on territorial criteria than historic and linguistic criteria. One of the main proponents of the unity of the languages of the
Iberian peninsula was Spanish philologist
Ramon Menendez Pidal, while from long time ago others like
Wilhelm Meyer-Lubke (''Das Katalanische'', Heidelberg, 1925) have supported the kinship of
Occitan and
Catalan.
During the Middle Ages, for five centuries (VIII to XIII) of political and social convergence of these territories, there was no clear distinction or separation between the
Occitan and the
Catalan. For instance, the
Provençal troubadour,
Albert de Sisteron, says: "Tell me which are better, French or Catalans, and place me among the Catalans, the Gascons, Provençal, Limousins, Auvergnats and Viennois". In
Marseille, a typical Provençal song is called 'Catalan song'. (M. Milà i Fontanals, ''De los Trobadores en España'', p. 487)